Fibromyalgia?
E39: Fibromyalgia?
In this episode, the Hemp Queen and Emperor discuss fibromyalgia’s legitimacy, causes, and potential treatment with cannabinoids… with some other juicy topics sprinkled in, including:
-Why looking for CBD at a gas station is a lot like looking for love at a strip club.
-Why Dee Dee disagrees with the FDA overseeing both food and drugs.
-How CBD can factor into your pain-management plan, and how it actually feels when you take it.
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INTRODUCTION
Matt:
Hi, I’m Matt,
Dee Dee:
And I’m Dee Dee. We are the hilarious outcome of opposing brains, sharing a mutual desire to share knowledge and positive thinking about him and cannabis.
WELCOME
Matt:
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Dee Dee:
We are here to shatter the myths about hemp and cannabis and change the stigma of this amazing plant. Welcome to Hemp and Happiness with Hemp
Matt:
Queen and Emperor podcast.
Dee Dee:
Join us as we venture into this misunderstood and the unknown. Hello. Happy hamsters. Are you ready there,
Matt:
Matt? I am.
Dee Dee:
Okay. <laugh>
Matt:
Speaking to the microphone. <laugh>?
Fibromyalgia?
Dee Dee:
Yes. Something like that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Hey guys, we are actually recording out of our news store and probably by the time this one drops, we may be open <laugh> hashtag goals. Um, but our new 812hemp store. So this is also gonna be the location, uh, where we record our podcast and, you know, continue to help people with our amazing cannabis and CBD and Delta 8 and Delta 9 products. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So we’re pretty excited about it. Hopefully it’ll be the first week of December. Um, follow us on 812hemp. Follow us on 502Wellness Center and 502 Hemp and 812 Hemp on Instagram. And we will be dropping all that information once. Um, we are 100% sure that that’s the day we’re opening Uhhuh <affirmative> because had it been up to me, we’d done this back in October, but we just weren’t ready. So it happens, it happens, but we got such a beautiful space and I can’t wait to show everyone. Yeah, I freaking love it.
Matt:
It’s
Dee Dee:
Pimp. It is. The floors are beautiful. I even got a kitchen. I
Matt:
Got a kitchen. Dee Dee’s moving in. <laugh>. She’s going to live here now.
Dee Dee:
Almost good. With the exception of a shower. But you know, we, we could, yeah, we could totally make that happen. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Hey, hey, hey honey, if I’m ever not home, I’m at my other house. So
Matt:
That’s disturbing
Dee Dee:
<laugh>. It is disturbing, isn’t
Matt:
It? Uh, I don’t know. I used to shower at my old office all the time. I had a shower in there, but that was a construction office. A
Dee Dee:
Little different. Oh, that’s not way different.
Matt:
Yeah, way different. I just slept there too.
Dee Dee:
Vacation. Wow. Well, yeah,
Matt:
I don’t, anyway,
Dee Dee:
Only if it was really like snowy out or something, I would, I do
Matt:
That. Well,
Dee Dee:
Eh, I got all-wheel drive. I’m good. <laugh>. Yeah. <laugh>. Oh, the holidays.
Matt:
Indeed. Anyway,
Dee Dee:
So today what we’re gonna talk about, um, which I kind of did a lot of research on, um, I wouldn’t say a lot cuz you know, you only have so much time in the day, but I wanted to talk about fibromyalgia, what it is, what are some symptoms of it, what people have done in the past, what people are doing now. I think it’s super important to talk about, um, specific, I guess, ailments that people have that come into our store that use our products. Um, what they’re using it for. You know, that that’s all important and tons of anecdotal evidence that our products help people with fibromyalgia, but what really is fibromyalgia? Um, I truly feel like it is something that has just been recently labeled as kind of a, what the lack of a better word. Like a dump all like you have a catchall.
Yeah, catchall. Uh, I like dump all though. I do like to make my own words up. Um, yeah, catchall, kind of a catchall type thing because fibromyalgia, they talk about to being a musco skeletal disorder that amplifies the way the brain processes pain and it often leaves the body’s pain receptors in hyperdrive. So pain is one of the biggest, um, one of the biggest symptoms of fibromyalgia, just pain in different places. I read a story about how one lady, she just stubbed her toe and was in pain for days on her toe, even though it was minor and probably had, like, if, if one of us did it, we’d be fine. Yeah. We hurt our toe, it hurts for a little bit and then it goes away. Right. But for fibro fibromyalgia people that it’s, doesn’t happen that way. Stays and stays and stays like that.
So that was one thing that really got to me. I was like, ugh. And then you’re in pain constantly. You can’t do the things that you love to do. So then that can bring on depression, that can bring on sleep issues, anxiety, they talk about those is being some of the things. Um, joint stiffness, muscle stiffness, um, having a hard time concentrating because your body’s in pain everywhere you turn. Um, they talked about that a lot. Even bowel troubles, like issues with your bowels. And I’m sorry, but I’m, I’m pretty regular. I I like to be regular. It’s a good thing for you. I think so. Having that kind of stuff that, that’s just, Hmm. It almost sounds like my sister has fibro. She just doesn’t know it
Matt:
Well. But you just said it’s a catchall. It is. And there’s no scientific or medical test that can prove its existence.
Dee Dee:
No, I don’t believe so. There definitely needs to be a lot more research on this.
Matt:
So what it probably is, is a variety of ailments being conglomerated and lump, lump together. Oh, you have fibromyalgia, right? Uh, so that they can produce a, uh, a, a medical protocol and a regimen of mm-hmm. <affirmative>
Dee Dee:
Medications. And unfortunately most of those medications are pain pills. I think gabapentin is the number one prescribed thing for anybody with fibromyalgia and, and
Matt:
They’re, or fibromyalgia is the number one thing for people who want gabapentin.
Dee Dee:
Oh yeah. I, yeah. I guess if you look
Matt:
At it that, cause it would be very easy to say, oh, doc, terrible pain. Well, terrible pain. Uh, but they need some of that gaba
Dee Dee:
They even put restless leg syndrome in there, which I actually had that. So, and I could tell a huge difference when I had to get off of it for my CBD off of it for a week. It was a big difference. Um, I also feel like I have creepy crawlies on my legs. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I’m sitting here right now and I feel like there’s things crawling on my legs. And it’s weird. Like it’s, I’m used to it, so I don’t even really think about it. Like, unless I’m thinking about it and then I feel it even more. But for just like the day in and day out stuff, I don’t pay much attention. Um, and I don’t know when that happened, but I’ve had that like since I was a little girl, my dad, my dad literally put my, he was afraid that we had bedbugs, so he took my mattress outside and this was the worst thing he could have done. He sprayed it down with water. And I swear to God, I slept on a moldy mattress for years because it never smelled right after that. But it was my, it was my internal body feeling like things were crawling on me. Ah. And it’s crazy, isn’t it?
Matt:
Yeah. But is that psychological?
Dee Dee:
I don’t know. I mean, I, is that something wrong with me?
Matt:
I don’t know. I mean, I, I’m, I’m definitely not certified to tell you. You’re, I can tell you something’s wrong with you, I can promise you that, but Oh, there’s, as far as things wrong, far as me, uh, is it, is it a physiological or psychological ailment is what I couldn’t, I’m curious of because Well, I’ll, because here’s the thing is I have had, um, insect issues and, and homes, places that I’ve lived. I mean, let’s face up, right? I’ve lived outdoors. Yeah. Um, and
Dee Dee:
I wonder about you now. Well,
Matt:
<laugh> I don’t live outdoors anymore, but I would, thank God I would I know you’re significant. Choose
Dee Dee:
Other
Matt:
Very well. I choose, yes. I choose not to. But, uh, in those circumstances, I, I had instances where I would have insect infestations where I would just be simply living amongst the, in insects. Right. Um, and one, one situation in particular, uh, where, uh, there were a lot of wild animals that had fleas. Mm. And it was a very Dr. Arid region Yeah. I was living in at the time. So fleas were abundant and you’d get them and it was gross. Yeah. Um, and it took a very long, long time for me to be wave from
Dee Dee:
Flees. Did
Matt:
You He’s pretty hairy folks. I believe it or not, I did have to treat myself for fleas. I’m not afraid to admit it. I can. Oh, oh my God. That’s
Dee Dee:
Hilarious.
Matt:
Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, I mean, ever. Yeah. Hey, I’m, I’ve lived my life, right? I’ve lived my life. I’ve had these experiences. The, but anyway, the point is, um, there were a lot, it was a long time before I wouldn’t be like paranoid or like, oh, is there like, is there a flea crawling up on me? Yeah. Like what’s that feeling? But it was all in my head.
Dee Dee:
But we never had any bugs like that growing up. Well, not like
Matt:
That though. But, but I’m bugs what I’m saying is these things can manifest.
Dee Dee:
I mean they
Matt:
Can, it can be a But
Dee Dee:
Why would that still be bothering me now as an adult?
Matt:
I don’t know. Maybe you should talk to someone. I’m
Dee Dee:
A clean freak
Matt:
Man. I know, but Exactly. You’re a clean freak.
Dee Dee:
You think that’s why I’m a clean freak? Possibly.
Matt:
I think that, I think that’s, that’s interesting.
Dee Dee:
I mean, when I see, if I see any kind of bug anywhere, I’m like, kill it. Yeah. Other than spiders. Cuz they eat the bugs. So I like to save the spiders, but still, I don’t want them f first crawling on me either.
Matt:
Well, I, so to circle back, I just think that, that this stuff, one, if it’s psychological,
Dee Dee:
Well, and
Matt:
See that’s one thing.
Dee Dee:
CBD fool spectrum can help with that too. Right. I agree. And it even does me, I mean, I can tell a difference when I don’t take it as, as opposed to taking it,
Matt:
If it’s physiological, then I think that needs to be identified. Like we mm-hmm. <affirmative> we discussed earlier, um mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, if it’s a, especially if it’s a en um, endo cannabinoid deficiency issue.
Dee Dee:
Oh yes.
Matt:
And then you would
Dee Dee:
Definitely, that was one of the things that they talked about in the research, that that may be, um, that there may be a specific issue right there that you do not have the, the cannabinoids you need. And it is a deficiency. Like they’re doing research now that that’s what some of a lot of these fibro vial symptoms could be a result of. Right. So when people turn to their medical doctors and they’re starting to get all these pills and they’re going through all this, you know, let’s try this, let’s try that. Try C and like, obviously we’re not medical doctors, but it would behoove you to try full spectrum CBD products prior to all of this other stuff. Now if you already have it in your head that it’s not gonna work, it ain’t gonna work. You
Matt:
Know what I mean? Especially if it’s psychological.
Dee Dee:
Exactly. Exactly. If it’s psychological. But if you are open to trying something that is natural that doesn’t cause side effects, that can possibly help you in more ways than you are even aware of. Because a lot of times in CBD products you don’t feel the pro, you don’t feel it working, but it is. Yeah, it is. And usually people notice that it works when they stop taking it. I get, we get a lot of customers that, well, I stopped taking it for a while and my god, my joints hurt, or you know, my arthritis is bad again. And I was like, yeah. Because when you’re not in pain, you don’t think about the pain. Right. It’s only when you’re in pain that you think about it.
Matt:
Well, yes. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and that, and that’s the difference between, that’s what makes THC the unique cannabinoid Yes. In the profile. Because most, except for with the, I would say arguably with the exception of cbn mm-hmm. <affirmative>, because if I take CBN in a high enough quantity, I, I don’t feel intoxicated necessarily, but I do feel very sleepy. Yeah. Why? I guess if I take thcv too, but that’s a thc. Yeah. So, um, yeah. That’s what makes THC unique because mm-hmm. <affirmative>, when you take thc you feel different. Yes. If you, when you take CBD, um, and there’s some other, you know, with the, the, the functionality of the cannabinoid mm-hmm. <affirmative> and how it reacts with the CB1 and two CB2 receptors. And we can get all into the science of it. But the bottom line is when you take thc, you feel different. Right. And people are like, oh, I feel different when you take CBD. It’s doing things for your body to help you and benefit Correct. Your body, but you’re not necess Well, and again, anecdotal not making any claims here.
Dee Dee:
Right. Correct. No claims
Matt:
Are being made to any, you know, well anyway. Yeah. Um, so I think that tricks people mm-hmm. <affirmative> and, uh, and into thinking, you know, it’s the same thing. Like, you know, you can take a really good supplement for exercise that’s really healthy for your body and say, oh, it’s not doing anything. Right. And then you can take a crapload of caffeine and beta aine and be like, oh, I feel great
Dee Dee:
<laugh>. Right. Like, I take my vitamins every day. I don’t necessarily feel anything from those vitamins, but I usually feel kind of shitty when I haven’t had ’em for a couple
Matt:
Days. Well I think, you know, it’s interesting cuz supplements have, have a rocky road of proof mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I know. And, and there are, there’s, there’s a lot of people that are on both sides of the fence. And I think that if you look at hard enough, both people have valid arguments.
Dee Dee:
Well, I just know that people, especially, uh, people that have had like, um, gastric bypass or any kind of bariatric Yeah. Surgery. Yeah. You definitely need some supplements.
Matt:
Well, and here, but here’s the thing too is we live unfortunately in a world, um, culture and society where we deprive ourselves of things that we would naturally receive otherwise if we lived like, like normal animals. The normal animals that we are, we’ve created a synthetic lifestyle Yes. That, that deprives us of certain things and subjects us to other, you know, uh, uh, impurities. Right. And, um, and
Dee Dee:
That comes back to the fda, the Food and Drug Administration, which I’ve said, I couldn’t tell you how many times that they need to be separate because you don’t want drugs in your food and you don’t want food in your drugs. So it’s one or the other. When they let, when they, when
Matt:
They let you agree to disagree.
Dee Dee:
Oh, please <laugh>, you’re being
Matt:
What’s in edible. Oh,
Dee Dee:
Well that’s no, no, no, no. I’m talking about like pesticides in our food like that. And, and the fake food, the slime, the great, the pink slime and shit, the stuff that they put fillers.
Matt:
I don’t know what you’re eating.
Dee Dee:
Did you know that? Most people do not know this, but cellulose is wood pulp. So when you
Matt:
Read and it’s, and it’s good for, you
Dee Dee:
Know, that that’s
Matt:
Good. Fiber
Dee Dee:
Would, are you a beaver?
Matt:
You, you literally just talked about how much you like to be regular.
Dee Dee:
Oh, Jesus. But not
Matt:
You want some
Dee Dee:
Wood. Oh my God. We’re not a beavers. We’re not beavers. But there’s, there’s things that go into our food that shouldn’t be in there. I mean, and Yes.
Matt:
That are, that is true. That are not healthy. There, there are dyes, there are food dyes. Yes. Approved. Oh my god. Food colorings approved from the fda where one of the side effects is death. Yeah. And it’s approved.
Dee Dee:
Yeah. And, and, and hell for
Matt:
Literally
Dee Dee:
You take some marijuana to help yourself. Oh
Matt:
Lord. But well, the, the point is we don’t want to get out down this negative Maro blah. I, um, the point is, is that CBD and all the cannabinoids, including thc Yes. Uh, anecdotally do have a lot of benefit. They could help you if you have fibromyalgia. Correct. Whether be it psychological or physiological. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, there is potential for benefit, at least to the point where it’s worth taking a
Dee Dee:
Try. Right. Right. So Yeah. If
Matt:
You feel, and it’s definitely healthier than any medication
Dee Dee:
You’re gonna be for crack. Exactly. I mean, if, if, if big pharma is truly healthy, I mean, and don’t get me wrong, there are medications out there that are lifesaving and that it would, is very much needed. But a lot of the newer stuff now, I mean, it’s mostly pumping people full of opiates and, you know, you get the addiction side to it and all that crap. So I just would behoove you to try a natural remedy. And especially like, I take the CBD products for the, my anxiety and my restless leg, obviously, but those two in depression, and it helped me so much. That’s what made me open my store. I mean, yeah. I knew it was helping my husband with his seizures, but not that many people have seizures. You know what I mean? So it wasn’t No, you’d be surprised. I know. But it wasn’t until I used it myself that I was like, wow. And then started doing my research. This is beneficial for everyone. Everyone, everybody has an endocannabinoid
Matt:
System. Yes. And everyone produces endocannabinoids.
Dee Dee:
Yes. But based on our diet, based on our, um, lifestyle, a lot of people do not produce their own
Matt:
Well, and that then we circle back to the artificial. Exactly. Uh, li essentially what, you know, we’re living an artificial lifestyle. Yes. So step one is, well and wellness is to get yourself into a lifestyle mm-hmm. <affirmative> that is as natural as you as you can get it. Right. And then start introducing healthy supplements mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, for anything you might, uh, be deficient in.
Dee Dee:
Right. Exactly. Which is important. Agreed. So I, I just think that, you know, CBD has, and cannabis in general, I always kind of interchange the two. It has so much more benefit that people just aren’t aware of. And that’s why we’re here. That’s why we have 502 Hemp. That’s why we have, I’m getting ready to open 812 Hemp if we haven’t already. Um, but we’re, you know, that’s what we’re here for. We’re here to answer questions that you may have. We’re here to do the research. I am constantly reading about something new in the industry and Oh dude, did you hear about this cannabinoid? And mind you, Matt and I are both on the same page with this. We only carry natural cannabinoids. We do not carry the cannabinoids that, that are completely synthetically made. Um, there’s no research on them. God only knows what they could be doing to your system. I’m very, um, anti that. Um, and a lot of people are using some of these cannabinoids and they’re, you don’t know what these things truly do to you. So just be careful out there folks. You know, try to stick with reputable places when you do buy these products, whether it’s Delta eight, delta nine, or the cbd,
Matt:
Well go to a wellness center. Yeah. Don’t go to a smoke
Dee Dee:
Shop. Exactly. Wellness. Definitely not a gas station for crying out loud. Yeah. That’s the one of the worst things you can do is buy a health food at a gas station that just, that it, that does not exist. Yeah. Um, but just, you know, that’s what we’re here for. To answer your questions. And if you’re suffering with fibromyalgia,
Matt:
Buying, buying CBD at a gas station is like going to a strip club and looking for a long-term relationship. <laugh>. That, that’s essentially what you’re
Dee Dee:
Doing. You never know. I mean,
Matt:
Oh, it just worked out. It’s amazing.
Dee Dee:
We’re porn star. I mean come on. <laugh> a porn star. We you marrying a porn star? No.
Matt:
Oh. I’m hoping for the, hoping it’ll last. Yeah.
Dee Dee:
I couldn’t imagine. Make
Matt:
That work. <laugh>.
Dee Dee:
I don’t know about that.
Matt:
Rules. Rules. It’s all about the rules.
Dee Dee:
Okay. I mean, those are some hefty rules. Anyway, move it on. Um, <laugh> so many things I could say there. It’s just probably best. I’ll leave those to myself. That’s all good. My poor husband. My poor husband. Um, but anyway, if you guys had, you know, we joke. So sorry about that. But um, or actually I’m not. But anyway, um, if you have questions, reach out to us. That is exactly why we’re here. And with the holidays coming up and the season’s changing cause I know you’ve been kind of suffering with the season changing the cold, the hot, yeah, the cold, the hot. Yeah. Kind of getting to you. Well, and it also affects, which we’ll probably have to do a podcast on it, um, seasonal depression disorder. Um, I truly believe it’s real. So some people do, some people don’t. Um, but we’ll probably talk about that in the future podcast. Um, but again, reach out to us. We’re always here available to help answer any questions you have. You do not need to drive to other states. We have good, safe, reliable products here in Kentucky and soon to be in Indiana as well. But that’s about all I had Matt, so, you
Matt:
Know. Yeah. Yeah.
Dee Dee:
Happy holidays. Yeah. Thanks guys for listening. As always, have a safe and uh, awesome day.
Matt:
Peace.
Dee Dee:
Thanks for joining us for another episode of Hemp and Happiness with the hemp
Matt:
Queen and emperor.
Dee Dee:
Keep your mind ever open and expanding, like, subscribe, review, follow us, all the good stuff
Matt:
And keep it hemp out there.